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Barry Gilder, South African folk singer and ex-ANC intelligence operative

Barry Gilder, South African folk singer and ex-ANC intelligence operative

November 19, 2013 00:31:38

Guests: Gilder, Barry

Host: Alegi, Peter
Limb, Peter

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Episode 077

Barry Gilder's Songs and Secrets

Barry Gilder, South African folk singer and ex-ANC intelligence operative, is the author of Songs and Secrets: South Africa from Liberation to Governance. In the interview, he reflects on freedom songs, exile, and armed struggle. Gilder performs his Matola Song, about a friend killed by an apartheid death squad. He ends with thoughts on democratic governance and on the Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection, a think tank he co-founded in 2010.

00:00:00 - 00:01:34 Introduction
00:01:34 - 00:03:15 The Anti-Apartheid Movement
00:03:15 - 00:06:54 Political Consciousness, Music and Struggle
00:06:54 - 00:12:56 "Matola Song"
00:12:56 - 00:15:24 The History of Everyday Life
00:15:24 - 00:17:31 Life in Exile
00:17:31 - 00:21:32 Experiences in South African Intelligence
00:21:32 - 00:24:07 Transition to Democracy
00:24:07 - 00:30:03 Political Divisions in South Africa
00:30:03 - 00:31:38 Outro